"I was just talking to a team this week where the, the team leader is not a galvanizer and there's no one else really on the team that has any level of galvanizing," she says. "If they don't, no matter how talented you think they are, you're going to drive them into the ground." The model itself is a testament to the fact that we did all that we did in three and a half months to get it out in the world", he adds.

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