Karl Bart - Is He a Christian?

This episode is going to be one where you'regoing towant to check up the show notes, cause we've got lots of books and a lot of things to or that are coming out of this episode. I want to ask you, jen, about a karl bart. He's kind of, he's the first name that you list as like, a, a topic of conversation on a your book, healing the schisma. And so i'm just curious, like, what, maybe give us some background on who he is, and then talk about why, whys there's this resurgence in bart's scholarshipdand maybe talk about how he's influenced christian thought