Two amazing founder ceos that are trying to disrupt drug pricing in the united states. We're kind of doing a back to back pairing these two things together, because we actually ran this interview with capital r x last month but it was this big, long, beefy episode like we do. And since this is such a newsworthy topic, and the two of them together do such a fantastic job of explaining why drug pricing is so broken, we actually decided to just pare together. It's pretty illuminating. You're goin to hear bolsios referr to the drug industry as a cartel, maybe a lit of a little bit of a mafia. Effectively, they have unlimited

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