Economic Contrasts: Trump vs. Biden

Join the discussion as we delve into the economic realities of the US under Biden and Trump. Breaking down fact-checking articles, inflation rates, wage changes, and the real cost of living, we offer a comprehensive analysis of the current state and future outlook, revealing the stark differences between recent administrations. From gas prices to rent, grocery costs to home ownership, we uncover the underlying trends and dissect the implications for everyday Americans. Don't miss this deep dive into the numbers that impact your life and the upcoming election.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today is election day in the United States. You're running for office and so is Trump.

So you all get out there, vote or die

Vote or die, what the hell does that even mean? What you think it means, b***h.

Malcolm Collins: because this last four years has begun to feel. Like that scene from Oliver Twist,

Good Lord, it's good. Don't care what he looks like.

Malcolm Collins: where I just, in my mind, I wish the ad that the Trump campaign had played is what I'm putting on screen here, which is just Kamala laughing in the background, and it says, remember when your family could afford food.

Because we have seen like the Democrats will be like, oh, the economy is great under Biden and Kamala. And Kamala has said that she's not going to change much. So I wanted to go through the real inflation numbers, the real price of things under [00:01:00] the two administrations and not the, because there have been some inflation numbers that Republicans have sent around that are really massaged to look good for Trump.

Which. I think undersell things because then you're looking at them, you know, they're massaged. So, you know, this is as good as they could honestly make them look for Trump. So I'm going to start this by going over fact checker with an article titled viral posts, site misleading economic data to compare Biden and Trump presidencies.

To be taking down those ones that make Trump look really good.

Simone Collins: Right.

Malcolm Collins: And we'll go into the numbers that they give for Biden in the various areas, because I think through seeing the most rosy possible numbers that somebody could give Biden,

Simone Collins: right,

Malcolm Collins: you would be horrified for another four years of this.

Simone Collins: Okay. Wow. More so than

Malcolm Collins: you probably think. All right. We identified the national average price of regular gasoline at the pump 2.

48 [00:02:00] under Trump.

And overall, the national gas price increased by 2. 3 percent over the course of Trump's presidency. So under Trump for gas, 2. 48 average, 2. 3 percent increase.

Simone Collins: Right off the bat, this is insane to me because I'm hearing that and I'm like, No gas in the U. S. Was never that inexpensive.

Malcolm Collins: That's impossible.

Hold on. And, and, and keep in mind, they're massaging the numbers for Biden here. , the average price of gasoline under Biden was three 50 and under Biden's presidency, they increased 46. 2%. Well, yeah, we've been paying 4 at the pump. Like recently, I know they increased 46. 2 percent and the average was three 50.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: So the, the, at the end of the cycle, it's going to be higher, obviously. Yes, yes. The highest recorded price under the Biden's administration was at $5 in 1 cents. Yeah, that sounds about right. . So they went from 2 48 under Trump to $5 under [00:03:00] Biden and under Trump, they increased. 2. 3%. Under Biden, they increased 46.

2%. And keep in mind, that was a full four years of a Trump's presidency. And this is like three and a half years of a Biden presidency. All right, let's look at home ownership. All right. So if you look at Zillow's rent index for changes in Single family homes. They identified the average home rent price under the Trump administration as $1,488 as compared was $1,884 under Biden.

According to Zillow's Index, home rent prices for single bedroom houses increased 50 percent under Trump administration and 30 percent under the Biden administration. Like how do people afford this when it's increasing that much? Hold on. It's all going to get worse when we go to pay increases under the two administrations.

I think a lot of people have in the back of their heads. Well, yeah, but pay probably increased more. What pay [00:04:00] increases though? Oh my gosh. Okay. Now let's look at a different way of looking at this. The BLS also track, rent prices increased by 13. 6 percent over the entire Trump administration and by 21. 5 percent over the first three years of the Biden administration. So again, almost double there. Now let's, let's look at the NASDAQ, the stock market aggregated on a daily basis. The NASDAQ increased about 0.

14 percent per day under Trump and 0. 04 percent under Biden. So terrible terrible under biden. Okay, let's keep going here To measure grocery prices. Under trump grocery increased in price by 6. 5 Under biden by 20. 9

Simone Collins: Okay, that makes a lot of sense now I feel a lot less gaslit based on these numbers because i'm hearing a lot of discussion now Especially leading up to the election that prices aren't that different, but I keep thinking, no, I, they're

Malcolm Collins: [00:05:00] just lying to people.

It's so bad.

Simone Collins: Yeah,

Speaker 11: Democrats act like this is the nineties and they're working under the old rules. The new rules are these attack, lie, don't get caught. Machiavelli wrote the Prince for the rulers.

Well, we're rewriting it for us.

Malcolm Collins: But yeah, they're just lying, lying,

Simone Collins: lying. That is. Insane, but also I didn't realize just how bad it was because I know things cost more, but I think I'd forgotten at this point. I've even successfully been gas lit to the extent where when you said that gas prices were on average about 2.

5 dollars in the US under Trump. I was like, I couldn't believe it grocery prices too, but now I feel like less of an idiot because every time you and I go to a restaurant, for example, or to a grocery store, I think I can't afford this, or this, this used to be the price of a. Michelin star restaurant in the heart of Manhattan.[00:06:00]

But we are out in the boonies in Pennsylvania at like a wing bucket. You know what I mean? Like this is not.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. No, no, no. Seriously. They'll be like, Oh, this is like 25 for an entree at like a medium restaurant. And it's like, this was literally what Michelin star restaurants used to charge. I'd say a

Simone Collins: 25 entree was, I think I remember seeing those prices at restaurants like log runway, which was one of the most.

expensive, fancy restaurants in all of New York City that we've ever eaten that was like such a thing you dress up to go is a big deal. And what makes me so concerned about this too, is Well, you and I basically since the pandemic have stopped eating out period unless it's for a business dinner that we have to go to and we have to meet at a restaurant because otherwise we just have people come to our house and we inflict our food upon them.

We. We don't see that same change in the average American. The average American is still eating out with their [00:07:00] family on a semi regular basis, if not on a very regular basis. When I hear quote, unquote, normal people talking about their lives, they're door dashing, they're Uber eatsing. They are, so they're getting delivered restaurant food.

So not only restaurant food, but restaurant food that they're paying delivery fees for. Well,

Malcolm Collins: and it shows you how entitled people are. There was a campaign a while ago. We're after the pandemic, people were saying that DoorDash should be like a human, right? This is progressives saying that the government should pay for our DoorDash.

Because they didn't like to like that. They could get triggered if they go out in public or they could, you know,

Speaker: A few weeks back, this retard showed up with this take, comparing food delivery to vaccines and medicines, as in her view, they are all the fruits of progress that should be considered essential, despite not existing in previous eras, because times and standards have changed. , if you're against them being made into a human right, you're ableist. The discourse culminated with this furry claiming that he [00:08:00] orders DoorDash because his polycule is food insecure and too disabled to cook for themselves, even though DoorDash is really expensive, and food insecurity refers to people who are so poor they can't consistently afford food.

So this is all guy replies, some types of food are basic staples, see rice, pasta, veg, fruit, etc. Some types of food are more luxury items. Both can exist. No one has an automatic human right to be able to shop at Waitrose. It's a basic human right to afford all food. You can't pick and choose what people deserve.

The f**k is wrong with Oh my god. Listen

Malcolm Collins: people forget just how luxurious our lives are,

Simone Collins: that you, you could not get food delivered to you. There, there were certainly local pizza stores. That might do delivery rounds in a limited area, or sometimes Chinese food did delivery, but that was offered on a restaurant by restaurant basis by restaurant staff.

This was not a pervasive service available to everyone. It certainly wasn't affordable or, you know, cheap by any means. [00:09:00] Now nowadays you can literally get a TV door dash to you. You can have someone buy large electronic devices, which by the way, those are the things that have gotten less expensive, and I'm assuming.

That this is why a lot of people are able to massage the numbers and say, listen, overall, on the whole prices aren't higher. And that's because many big ticket objects, appliances, TVs that used to be 2, now are 300. There's so much less expensive. The thing is, I'm not buying a TV every week. I'm buying groceries every week.

I'm buying gas every week.

Malcolm Collins: Well, let's go over the specifics here. We so if you look at Since Biden was elected president bacon prices are 13 percent higher. Cereal and baked goods are 25. 6 percent higher.

Simone Collins: Cereal is such a scam. When you think about what you pay per calorie for cereal, it is a complete scam, by the way.

I can't afford it. There's no one can afford cereal. That's, that's [00:10:00] insane.

Malcolm Collins: Ever since

Simone Collins: college, I quit cereal when I realized how much it actually costs per calorie. It's ridiculous.

Does anyone else think that it's upsetting that food is currently considered a luxury item? That we're being told to just eat cereal on frozen dinners? I'm feeling O type away about it.

Malcolm Collins: So, non alcoholic beverages increased 21. 4%. Meat, poultry, fish, and eggs collectively increased 20. 2%. And Let's look at electricity prices here.

So under the Trump administration, electricity increased 4 percent in price. Under the Biden administration, it increased 28. 3 percent in price.

Simone Collins: Oh, and we're seeing scary things like in some states people. Being obligated, essentially, to pay for other people's electricity. Oh, yeah.

Malcolm Collins: This was in Connecticut, where now you are obligated to pay for anyone who makes under a certain price as electricity, and their electricity cost is just averaged out throughout everyone who's, like, middle class or above.

Simone Collins: Yeah, so in other words, people of [00:11:00] greater means are expected to subsidize the electricity for those of less means, but that means they

Malcolm Collins: just pay for it. And so their, their prices have jumped like a 3rd in some areas.

Simone Collins: Yeah, they get searches and then they're what they used to expect in budget for in their electricity bills are now it's just completely out of whack.

Malcolm Collins: And I also think people are like, oh, this is going to end soon.

Kamala isn't as bad as Biden. Excuse me. Kamala is the one who wanted to do price fixing on grocery store foods. You think that this isn't going to spiral further out of control? She isn't just going to continue what Biden is doing. She wants to make it work. Like you get that, right? Like you're not stupid, right?

Like, can you actually afford this? Like meaningfully, can you?

He's courting and serviloys, what makes it a question?

Malcolm Collins: But let's let's keep going here.

Simone Collins: I think what I think, though, the mindset is, and we touched on this in our last episode discussing single [00:12:00] women for Kamala, is that where the Democrat Party is moving is toward a socialist state where the government provides all of your services.

This also came out in recent job numbers where the vast majority of recent job growth has been in government jobs. And also government associated jobs. So a lot of the other job growth, it was not in explicitly government jobs was I think in healthcare, which is largely subsidized by things like Medicare and Medicaid in the U S which is our socialized version of, of Medit Medit Medit.

Like we haven't had a

Malcolm Collins: real job growth under Biden. It's just been an expansion.

Simone Collins: Yeah. It's been an expansion of government jobs and services. So in other words, the government is becoming the thing that employs us. The thing that provides us our services. And there's this expectation that, okay, well, yeah, we can't afford anything, but the government is just going to provide that to us.

And that is, that is why inflation is okay. I think there's also this, this sort of collective declaring of declaration of bankruptcy among Americans [00:13:00] who are continuing to eat out on a regular basis, are continuing to door dash, are continuing to buy electronics and put it on debt and finance it with the assumption that they're never going to pay it off, but that for some reason, they're still able to do it.

So why would they stop doing it

Malcolm Collins: right here? The difference in wages during this period, by the way, important to note when you're considering all this gross, you're like, well, you know, maybe it's because of like, price, inflation of labor. It's like, a lot of people say, well, labor costs more than it used to in the Biden administration.

Earnings increased by 1.9% under the Trump administration earnings increased by 6.8%.

Simone Collins: Wow.

Malcolm Collins: So like, four times as much. I think at least like that's absolutely wild. 400% more than they did under Biden.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Well, I think here's the dynamic, I think as at play here during the pandemic. A lot of organizations realized that didn't need to employ as many people as they needed to employ.

And a lot of organizations [00:14:00] are now trying to offload employees very heavily. And one of the easiest ways to do so without having to pay severance packages or deal with legal issues, especially among really large companies that are subject to these risks is to just become increasingly hostile and unattractive to the employees.

So this is the equivalent of wanting to break up with your girlfriend, but not being direct with her and instead just being an a*****e to her for a long time. So that's why we're not getting raises. That's why people are expected to return to the office. Because this is a really great way to clean out your ranks and reduce your staff size without announcing layoffs, without firing people.

And so I think that that's one reason why wages are stagnant. It's not necessarily that there isn't a pressure. In terms of raising wages. And I actually think that a lot of new jobs and in hard to fill positions for skills that are rare now are paying a tons more, but that [00:15:00] most roles are kind of redundant now in the age of AI, most companies need to get rid of them.

And the reason why those rages are stagnant is because the companies are quiet, quitting on the employees. The companies are trying to get rid of them, and we should be considering ourselves lucky that these jobs even exist. I mean, we're lucky to have stagnant wages at this point and that we, we live in a legal environment that is annoyingly persnickety when it comes to firing people.

Malcolm Collins: I think a lot of people might be hearing all this and they might be thinking, well, I mean, how does this compare to previous presidents? You know, maybe these are just outliers or this is normal fluctuation between presidents. So here, I'm going to put a chart on screen that compares Biden to Trump, to Obama, to Bush, to Clinton, to first Bush, to Reagan, to Carter.

So we're getting a big thing here. And what you're going to find is consistently. Trump is one of the best and Biden is one of the worst.

In fact, [00:16:00] the only one who seems even to really tie Biden for worst is Carter. So if we look at overall inflation Biden is the single worst except for Carter. If we look at food inflation, Biden is the single worst, except for Carter.

If we look at energy inflation Biden is the worst, even worse than Carter. If we look at rent inflation Biden narrowly loses to Carter, but worse than literally every other president. I. e. Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan. All right, now let's go to Trump. How does Trump compare? Overall, he's the single lowest of every one of the presidents I just mentioned in terms of inflation.

Single lowest.

Simone Collins: They used to call it, they used to call the U. S. dollar during Jimmy Carter's reign, the Jimmy Carter peso. I guess we should call it the Biden s**t coin. That's what the U. S. dollar is. The Biden s**t

Malcolm Collins: coin? It's literally worse than the Jimmy Carter peso. Like, [00:17:00] that is wild to me. So, so, for food.

Trump, Obama was less than Trump. But Trump, Trump was the second lowest inflation. For energy Clinton was less than Trump, but Trump was the second lowest. For rent Obama, Clinton, Obama and Clinton were both better than Trump, but Trump was the third lowest, but overall Trump did best because like, for example, Obama had terrible energy inflation, 29.

9%. Not, not as bad as Biden, 37. 2%, but still bad. So I think that people can see here, that this isn't like comparing like to like or like two bad options as people often put it.

Speaker 3: Did you just say that voting is ridiculous? No, I think voting is great, but if I have to choose between a douche and a turd, I just don't see the point. You don't see the point! Oh, you young people just make me sick!

Malcolm Collins: It's comparing a genuinely exceptional option to a genuinely terrible [00:18:00] option. Well,

Simone Collins: here's, here's where things make it controversial.

You may actually want to cut this whole part out. But we'll see, because I think this inflationary period, but also the way that Americans spend money. Has come to a tipping point where I think we just need to fundamentally as a nation rethink how we spend money and get sober, essentially, we need to get sober.

We need to stop consuming like we're consuming. We need to tighten our belts. Now, 1 of our

Malcolm Collins: 1

Simone Collins: of our local friends had texted us me recently. He's like, what's all this about a trump tax? What, what, what, what's going on? And this is related to the way that Democrats are framing the tariffs that Trump proposes, which are mostly on China, but also on all imports, which would, to be fair, if enacted, raise prices on many foreign produced goods, especially those like electronics

Malcolm Collins: that are now incredibly cheap.

Keep [00:19:00] in mind, Trump put in tariffs in its first administration and achieved tremendous wage growth.

Simone Collins: Yeah, it did. It did achieve wage growth. And I think it's really important. If you look at Peter's eye hands, the end of the world is just the beginning. It's important that we start investing now more in domestic production and definitely quitting China.

I think the faster we quit China, not only because China is hostile towards us, not only because China is actively trying to Ruin us with bad TikTok algorithms and other things. But also because China is about to undergo immense instability due to demographic collapse, like we should not be, even if we loved China, it's kind of like, you know, loving a friend who's about to, you know, go through a terrible divorce and go bankrupt.

Like don't depend on them for anything, you know, that's not a safe bet. So I'm very much in favor of that, but I do think that it could increase some prices. And I think that. And a responsible voter has to be aware that voting for Trump just doesn't mean everything's suddenly going to get less expensive because it's not.

But I think that when we look at the other side and you look at what Democrats are proposing to do [00:20:00] instead.

Malcolm Collins: In Trump's first administration, okay where all those tariffs were enacted, he had the lowest inflation rate of any president since Carter and likely before that. So, everyone who's like, prices are gonna go up when he implements all these tariffs, well, he did it the first time and they didn't.

Simone Collins: Yeah. I mean, I, I don't think it's going to be terribly bad. It can, it can cause some prices to increase. And I just, I want to be realistic about that. And I don't think that there's any way going forward where our lives aren't more expensive and where we, as, as Americans collectively have to rethink our spending.

But I also think that if we instead take the, if we dig in deeper to the Democrat approach, which is more government jobs and more government dependency. We are going to end up in a food line situation. We are going to end up in a When politicians are talking about fixing

Malcolm Collins: grocery store prices, they're preparing us for a food line.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: I would note here [00:21:00] that like, here's another great, you know, I've done videos where I complain about how much it costs to build infrastructure in the United States. So here's a graph right here, a manufacturing construction between Biden and Trump and under the Trump administration, you can see it's just a perfectly flat line.

And under the Biden administration, right on up. Now. We're going to talk about, I'll put a graph on screen of inflation under Trump and Biden and people can be like, Oh, Biden's kind of getting it back under control.

Oh yeah. Right. Before he needs to run for a second election, he. Kind of starts to get it back under control, but let's look at how ridiculous the things and when we say back under control, keep in mind that a graph like this, what you're looking at is incremental increase every year. It's not like he's reversed it because the line is going down now.

Simone Collins: Listening passively to media. If I didn't have additional context in the world from you and from other sources, I'd be like, wait, I'm hearing broadly that inflation is down to 3%. Everything's [00:22:00] fine. for listening. But that doesn't, it's worded in a way of it's all undone. Everything's fine now, but one that doesn't change the fact that now we have permanently higher prices.

Yeah. And, and lower wages. Yeah. That's it. It's, it's very annoying to me that there's this argument being made, but then again, there is this. Everyone in our nation, pretty much, on at least one average, who is voting Democrat is firmly under the impression that the economy has done great under Biden. I mean, the funny thing is with the Green New Deal, aka the Inflation Reduction Act, which was this giant spending bill that led to a lot of investment in green energy infrastructure.

A lot of that did end up going to Republicans who were like very happily, like making a ton of money from the, like, I guess, subsidies that they got our tax breaks or something that they got from this program. Well at the same time, shitting on the government for wasting all [00:23:00] their money. But I mean, at least someone's making money from this.

Malcolm Collins: So I, I, I note here everything I've gone over so far was from that fact checking article or, or most of what I went over. Okay. Yeah. So

Simone Collins: from a hostile source.

Malcolm Collins: Trump. And that's how good it made Trump look. Okay. So keep that in mind. Now we're going to go into just how much they attempt to manipulate data here.

Okay. So Biden said quote, but no presidents had the run we've had in creating jobs and bringing down inflation It was nine percent when I came into office nine percent But here's the problem simone. It wasn't close to that it was actually when, when Biden came into office, 1.

4% that was January 2021. And in fact, if we even go like months back, we can be like, well, maybe he got the months wrong or something like that. Okay. October 20th, it was 1. 2%. November 20th, it was [00:24:00] 1. 3%. December 20th, it was 1. 5%. January 21st, it was 1. 4%. Then when did it hit 9%? It didn't. He just lied. It hit 9 percent in his administration.

 It hit 9 percent in June 2022. It's highest level in about five years. 40 years. And from here, the annual reach trended down for a year, reaching 3 percent in June 2023, but it has since remained above 3 and with 3. 5 percent for the 12 months ending in March, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

And so I'll put a graph on screen here. So no, it did not. He just lied. And if we take a look at it, it, this was 18 months later when it hit the 9.1%, 18 months into his administration.

Simone Collins: Okay. So it may have had something to do with that, that

Malcolm Collins: may

Simone Collins: not have been, especially when you consider

Malcolm Collins: that under the last four months of the Trump administration, it was around 1.2 to 1.4%.

Mm-Hmm. like

Simone Collins: in the midst of

Malcolm Collins: the

Simone Collins: pandemic too.

Malcolm Collins: [00:25:00] Yeah. And then you could say, okay, okay, okay. Well, what about other numbers here? All right. So, now let's look at interest rates. The mortgage rates were 2. 9 percent when Trump left office. The mortgage interest rate right now is roughly 7%. So more than twice as high.

That means that the higher interest rates in the inflation and rents and housing prices mean that the mortgage payment on a median value home now is twice as high under Biden as it was under Trump. How about interest rates on federal borrowing? During Trump's last year in office, the 10 year Treasury bill was 0.

9 percent after 3. 5% years of Biden. Interest rates are at 4. 3%. So a four X higher, more, more than four X higher. And when we take the two COVID years, 2020 and 2021 out of Trump spending, because I think that's pretty fair. We find the average deficits under Trump were [00:26:00] roughly 750 billion which is bad.

But under Biden, it was 1. 5 trillion per year. Even adjusting for Bidenflation, deficits have been at least 50 percent higher under Biden than Trump. I'm bored. So, when you hear all of that in context, if you haven't gone out to vote yet today, and you're like, Eh, can you afford not to? Can you afford, and I guess this is the video where we, I don't know if it's, Been up in the air, whether or not we're endorsing Trump.

Everyone's doing an endorsement thing these days. Like, you know, the one that's not the newspapers we need to do, we do. We need to do a real endorsement where we say I'll get my endorsement sword to the, to the, to the polls. You gotta do the, the, go to the polls, kabla,

Speaker 5: And dying in your beds, many [00:27:00] years from now, would you be willing To trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies they'll never take our freedom!

AVADA

Malcolm Collins: Kabla!

Simone Collins: Freedom! No, he doesn't say that at a very opportune time though. Yeah. That's

Malcolm Collins: always been my family's a battle cry since we saw Braveheart. Is the, the Kala.

Good Lord. Kala. Oh boy. Anyway, I love you to decimal. Do you have final thoughts on this?

Simone Collins: I don't know what to think anymore. I feel like I've been lied to so much and told that everything's okay when everything's not okay. And it's not just the US. Government or operatives saying, no, there's no inflation. It's fine. [00:28:00] 3%. What are you complaining about? No, things aren't more expensive. Can't you look at this report?

But also, no, there's no demographic collapse. Everything's going to be fine. I just feel like all these lies are going to come

Malcolm Collins: out ahead. The real rates of demographic collapse in all these countries and then the UN's predicted demography for these countries going forward every year.

Simone Collins: Gary is coming into the pandemic.

We, we came to this period of, Oh, this, this little virus looks kind of bad. We need to shut things down for just a little bit. Everyone's like, it's going to blow over. It's going to be fine. And I

Malcolm Collins: told you going into the pandemic, I was like, just biologically, there's no way that this blows over. You called it.

Simone Collins: And that's the thing is you are the Harbinger of Of, of dooms and apocalypses. And that's why I'm concerned. What's scary is with the pandemic, people weren't, there was no agenda. To like, I know that this is happening and it's bad, but I'm going to lie to people about it, like very, very intentional. I mean, there was a little bit of lying, I think about [00:29:00] masks maybe because they wanted to keep masks for medical professionals, but what's different about now is there is an active interest.

Sort of, and it's very related, you know, in terms of the, the operatives who want there to be an increasingly socialized state to the operatives who don't want us to believe that de demo demographic collapse is real. There is a, a very powerful and very motivated contingent that wants us to just not see this coming so that they can get the outcome they desire.

And the problem is that global economic cost have the ability. To execute the outcome they desire with success. So they are, they're very effective in brokering in this transition towards socialism and toward degrowth that they want, but I don't, they don't realize how bad degrowth really is because they have, they're in this myopic.

Utopian modern bubble of the world. Now they don't realize what it's [00:30:00] like when you don't have enough food. Is not, is not, they don't know what they're signing up for. And that's what scares me is they're very well, they're going to get their way. One way or another, Malcolm. And we have to figure out how to survive in small contingencies despite that fact at this point.

Malcolm Collins: Well, I, I think that you're absolutely right. They, they will get their way. So you can look at something like the UN right now. And a lot of people are like, oh, they couldn't possibly be manipulating the data this much, or like, here they couldn't possibly, like their goal. Is a global economic collapse and the intention behind the goal is that they can shift the world to a system where they and the other oligarchs like the intelligentsia, deep state, whatever you want to call it essentially runs everything through a communist or socialist system.

And I know here when people hear communist or socialist. If they're dumb they think that that means sharing all the resources [00:31:00] equally. When what it actually means and what like the people working at the UN think it means is a system where they control every aspect of your life. It's the same with like the people on the Kamala Harris team and stuff like that.

And we've seen her repeatedly. What I think Communists would think of as like on the ground. Communists think of as like fascist instincts. They think that they're going to be running things or less power would go to the oligarchs of our society. Absolutely not. What we are seeing here is that transition to remove power from the everyday citizen and consolidate all the power in our society was the oligarch.

And

Simone Collins: to be fair, cause I think when people hear you say things like that, they think you're making a straw man argument because it sounds like a It's, it's very, it sounds exaggerated, but these people are doing it from a place of, I think this is they genuinely believe this is what's best for humanity.

And this comes from a place of them, knowing from their perspective that they know better and that the [00:32:00] common average person. Simply can't manage these things on their own and they need to be directed to live a certain way and they need to receive services a certain way because they can't handle it.

They're too dumb and too stupid and too ignorant. And I will just make sure that they live their lives this way and I'll give them their services this way. And I'll take away their pain this way and I'll medicate them this way and it will be fine. And they're doing this from a place. of love and empathy.

They've been taken over by the urban monoculture, the, the woke mind virus, whatever you want to talk about it or however you want to describe it, where they are completely mimetically overtaken by a viral stream that says we must take away all in the moment suffering. So these people are, they're, they believe they're saving the world.

They're very motivated to save the world. They think they're doing the right thing. And they're, they're brokering this in very well. This is not us making up some [00:33:00] fake supervillain. And this isn't, we look like supervillains to them. This isn't, these aren't people who think they're doing a bad thing.

Malcolm Collins: And they've been completely brainwashed. There's no, yeah,

Simone Collins: but there's no Doctor Evil cacophony. Cackling behind, you know, inside a volcano. And I think these are people running the UN. These are people who are trying. They're like, we have to save the starving children. We have to, they, they care and they think they're saving the world.

And there are people that we know and love who fallen into this.

Malcolm Collins: Who are, I think that what's happening at the individual level here. And I think that this is really important for people to note is I think individuals can be like. They don't actually want the global economy to collapse, to bring in the new world order, socialism, or whatever you want to call it.

Kind of, because they

Simone Collins: think the global economy causes harm and doesn't take care of people.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, they, on an individual level, they see capitalism as creating things like homelessness. And they see like, like starvation, all the failing people, they're like, well,

Simone Collins: [00:34:00] capitalism has failed to save these people on the

Malcolm Collins: street.

Capitalism caused these people to opioids. And when they are thinking about, okay, what does society look like after this? Right. They are thinking about it in terms of a modern political fight. Like Trump winning versus Harris winning, not because they've been living in a capitalist system. They've been living with the luxury provided by capitalism.

And because of that, they are completely unaware of how catastrophic changes in economic systems are for people on the ground. Well, they don't know the counterfactual because it's kind of bad.

Simone Collins: The vast majority of these people. Did not grow up in anything but a hyper capitalist system or in a very wealthy socialist company country like the Nordic countries where just tons of oil revenue basically subsidized everyone's life.

And we don't have that in the entire world to depend. Yeah. And

Malcolm Collins: I think that one of the reasons why we might be more sensitive to this is because we have a lot of Latin American friends and we've lived a lot in Latin America. And I think if you have, you're not going to be [00:35:00] jumping at the idea to try to switch to a.

Socialist model or a communist model because you know just how bad it is I was saying it's it's it's stepping over your friend's bodies on the way to the grocery store type bad. It's not It's it's hoping your children don't starve to death type bad And I think that we for so long haven't lived in those systems where people are starving to death and stuff like that That we don't see that as a realistic possibility Even though it absolutely is

Simone Collins: I worry.

I don't like that. Anyway,

Malcolm Collins: love you to decimone. This was a wonderful video. Very informative, I hope. Please vote. Yeah. Vote or die. Motherfucker. Motherfucker. Vote or die. You better vote or I'll stick a knife in your eye. Thank you. That was beautiful. It's a great song. They're so great. Why should I vote if it's between a douche and a turd, you know?

Speaker 6: VOTE OR DIE MOTHERFUCKER, MOTHERFUCKER VOTE OR DIE [00:36:00] Rock the vote or else I'm gonna stick a knife through your eye Democracy is founded on one simple rule Get out there and vote or I will m***********g kill you I like it when you vote, b***h Shake them titties when you vote, b***h VOTE OR DIE MOTHERFUCKER, MOTHERFUCKER VOTE OR DIE You can't run from a 38, go ahead and drive Let your opinion be heard, you gotta make a choice

Simone Collins: Stone and Parker for president, I would be so scared. I really wish they

Malcolm Collins: would run.

Simone Collins: Right? They

Malcolm Collins: would be. They'd win in such a landslide, I think.

Simone Collins: Yeah, but we don't deserve them. You know, Curtis Yarvin made joke that, you know, we don't deserve Trump. I, I, I genuinely feel like we don't deserve Stone and Parker.

They are too good for us. I love the American people, but we have a lot of work to do before we deserve them. I love you.

Malcolm Collins: I love you too.

Simone Collins: Oh god, that has me so depressed. I'll end this recording.

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Speaker 8: We are gonna go closer.

Speaker 9: Closer to the

Speaker 8: bad

Speaker 9: deer. We gonna kill

Speaker 10: the bad

Speaker 9: deer. Yeah.

Speaker 10: Kill the

deer.