Introduction

Our focus to day is on what the war in ukrane reveals about leadership. It involves two larger than life leaders, puton and zolenski who have chosen dramatically different approaches to this extreme situation. My guest, michael mac fall, is uniquely qualified to weigh in. Mike is a political scientist at stamford, where he directs a centre for international studies. He served in important foreign policy rolls in the white house most notably as the us Ambassador to russia but also as special assistant to president obama on the security council.