When you're a postdoc or graduate student, you're not making much money at all. So he would go to shows, stay up most of the night, then come back to Stanford and start doing experiments,. He'd brush his teeth in the sink and I'd sleep there. And so eventually what happened was that he finished his postdoc as an assistant professor at UC San Diego. The housing in the Bay Area is crazy; how can we move back into the lab? Over the years it's consistently been the same themes: Work hard, keep out any kind of mischief which is easy to do but doesn't help anyone else.