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195. Jamy Ian Swiss — The Conjuror’s Conundrum

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The Relationship Between Magic and Critical Thought in the Nineteenth Century

In 18 forty eight, three young girls in a little town called hydesville, new york, which no longer exists near rochester, start talking to the devil. And this began a world wide, or at least in the sense of north america and parts of europe, england in particular, a religious phenomenon that lasted for a good 75 years. The idea that we could talk, we could communicate directly with the dead. There are entire books of spirit etictation through that process. We didn't have m t v a wy, that's a dated reference. I shouldn't be using that. But, you know, we didn't have  m t v

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