"I think story is so important," he says. "You can almost draw a straight line from you and your wife doing that and having kids that love stories and storytelling." He's not sure why 90 Perry never made it to his show, but now they're friends with the people who produce most of their albums. The band Cute was produced by Ben Gibberd, an ex-death cab driver for the U.S. Postal Service. They say indie songs are teaching people when they have bad feelings about life or something in general: turn to art.