You've written about depression as something that happens to individuals. But also thing that happens, as you say, a state of things or an atmosphere. Could you talk a little bit about that distinction between the individual experience of depression and the more collective way that you're trying to communicate about depression? Yes, i think i was,. i've been trying to go about this from two directions in my own life. The book kind of came out of, is, on the one hand, like feeling it myself, like just the various, no, heavy heavy weights that involved the job.