Intro

Zvi Mowshowitz, the writer behind Don't Worry About the Vase, returns to catch up with Nathan on everything OpenAI, Amazon-Anthropic collab, and Google Deepmind. They also discuss Perplexity, deepfakes, and software bundling vs the Roman Empire. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 - Episode Preview

(00:02:42) - Nathan's experience using Code Interpreter for a React app

00:06:09 - Zvi's perspective on Code Interpreter and other new Anthropic products

(00:10:47) - Nathan's approach of "coding by analogy" using Code Interpreter

(00:15:42) - Sponsors: Netsuite | Omneky

(00:17:00 )- Performance degradation issues with large context windows

(00:22:50) - The disconnect between Anthropic's value and what users are willing to pay

(00:31:56) - Predicting Gemini's capabilities relative to GPT-4

00:30:13 - Rating Code Interpreter's capabilities

(00:37:53) - Using Perplexity vs. Anthropic products for search

(00:44:11) - Potential for a bundled subscription for multiple AI services

(00:47:39) - Challenges of getting competitors to agree to bundling

(00:54:05) - Concerns over information pollution from synthetic content

(00:56:36) - Filtering adversarial vs. unintentional bogus information

(01:02:20) - Dangers of info pollution visible in Archive dataset

(01:11:15) - Kevin Fisher’s AI Souls demo with emotional voices

(01:12:15) - Difficulty of detecting AI voices/images for a general audience

(01:14:32) - Being optimistic about defending against deepfakes

(01:21:12) - The reversal curse in language models

(01:46:12) - Implications of Amazon investing in Anthropic

(01:49:20) - Non-standard terms likely affected the Anthropic valuation

(01:51:13) - Survey of the AI Safety landscape