Parsons says he's given up on the ceo of zillo ever coming on this programme. He thinks it's media people don't like him, or maybe I'm asking questions that would be too sharp. We'll just have their competitors on - Glen calman and whie keither boy love to come on. And we'll tell the story of real estate without the c ei'm not that i'm better or anything. But i think parmers like a fascinating guy. Loved to have a conversation with him.