I think maybe it'll be helpful for the audience if we clarify a little bit about that metaphysics. There's this human view that all that exists is the universe happening over and over again, right? You know, whatever happens in the universe, that's it. And then there's this anti-human view that the laws of nature have some oomph to them. I can't necessarily get my mind around that, but I maybe dimly see an analogy with your version of moral, non-naturalist realism. The moral status of a situation does supervene on what's physically happening.

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