I think for me, what I've experienced is obviously being in shape and help. But that's, that's not going to get you all the way. So if you're 18, 19 and you're shit with women, ask an ugly woman out. Stop trying to aim for the hot ones because the hot 18 year old girls will date people like me. Find an ugly chick, date her, and maybe you'll fall in love. Maybe you won't, but it doesn't matter. As you go through relationships and experiences with women, you'll learn more about women. We both learn a lot for sure from our experiences.

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