In This Episode:

Why Teresa sunset the live deep-dive cohorts—and how on-demand and the new Discovery Habits Toolbox better support real behavior change.
What leaders actually need to coach interviewing, assumption testing, and core discovery habits inside their orgs.
Why training is shifting toward ongoing, leader-supported learning (and how AI will accelerate the shift).
Teresa’s move into paid subscriptions and why AI content doesn’t fit the classic “design once, run for years” course model.
A sneak peek into the AI tools Teresa is building for discovery work—from interview coaching to near-ready interview snapshot generation.
Petra’s plans for the year: community building with Product at Heart, a new product leadership email course, her Product Leadership Wheel, and workshops launching in Cairo.
The role of conferences and retreats in staying grounded, inspired, and connected.
How Teresa is staying on top of academic research (and why “synthetic users” aren’t ready for prime time).
The shared challenge of evaluating vendors and conference speakers making questionable AI claims.

Key Takeaways:

Delivery models matter. Cohorts can be great, but some skills—especially discovery habits—require ongoing reinforcement inside the organization.
Leaders need coaching tools, not just training. Teams can’t apply discovery habits sustainably without managers who know how to guide them.
AI is reshaping how we teach and how teams learn. But it’s also creating a need for more rigorous evaluation of claims.
Experimentation is the theme of 2026. Whether it’s AI workflows, new product formats, or rethinking GTM for teaching tools, both Petra and Teresa are leaning into exploration.
Community still energizes. Conferences, workshops, and shared learning environments continue to play a key role—even for seasoned leaders.

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Teresa's AI subscriptions and cloud code tools

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