The Problem Isn't the Law but the Problems of Implementing the Rights

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Gideon: 80 percent of people charged with crimes in the u.s or poor by trying to get a lawyer for a poor person charged with a crime. "It just pits it as an individual against the system rather than a group or class against the system yeah right," he says."I'm still not convinced that i want a world in which these legal rights aren't importantly given by the law," Gideon adds.

Poor and black defendants have more legal rights than ever, but that didn't stop mass incarceration. Why is that? We talk about a paper by Paul Butler called "Poor People Lose: Gideon and the Critique of Rights." Plus, we answer the question that’s on everyone’s mind: how to live as an anti-natalist. And Tamler is appalled to discover David's anti-natalist leanings.