You got to just start with the kiss. After the kiss, everything else is easy. You just continue to progress forward and go through the physical escalation process. Then you don't need to worry about harassment or being creepy because all you got to do is continue forward until she says no. That's it. We're not going to have sex without consent. I hope so. But she's not going to try anything. You're going to have to make them move to go for a kiss. It took me many times to learn this many friend zone mistakes to get to the point where I could finally and confidently just make a move.

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