Our current agriculture system is incredibly sensitive to fossil inputs. We're using like two calories to produce one calorie, but we're using 10 to 14 to deliver after the packaging and the drying and the delivery of food. It's 10-14 to one. Whereas in our past, it was an energy source, not a sink like that. And so human economies are sort of weird in a sense that if you look at labor force, it's upside down.

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