Humans have long encountered experiences that challenge their rational ideas about the world. Encounters with angels, demons, fairies, gnomes, or other spirits have been the standards of folklore since time immemorial. We agree with Jung that these revelations are scientifically valuable, though best explored though any lens but materialism; i.e. physics. When we learn about common bizarre experiences, we learn about ourselves. Author Ogi Ogas joins us again, alongside Qualia Research Institute's Andrés Gómez Emilsson, to discuss close encounters with the modern version of those elusive, yet timeless, entities. We begin with the phenomenological approaches to studying consciousness. We then compare both guest's experience with non-human minds.
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(00:00) Go!
(00:05:33) Daniel Dennett
(00:07:09) Armchair science?
(00:11:10) Philosophical zombie
(00:15:30) Consciousness science driven by AI dream?
(00:21:27) Dualism: activity vs. actors
(00:29:54) Mathematical objects vs. physical bodies
(00:37:37) Patterns of what?
(00:44:44 All in your head?
(00:47:43) Where in the head, exactly?
(00:52:21) Any scientific theory of consciousness must...
(01:03:33) Boundaries are the mind's machinery
(01:17:32) Godlike entities, Laplace's daemon, all-powerful AI
(01:19:10) Intex entities & Failsafe Supreme
(01:21:53) Ground rules for studying entity encounters
(01:25:35) Semantic v. phenomenal content of experience
(01:30:11) More about the need for multiplicity of conscious experiences
(01:39:14) Eternal recurrence
(01:44:23) Recording, observation, attention
(01:50:44) Entities as civilizations
(02:06:06) Good v. evil civilizations?
(02:17:43) Left and right handed minds
(02:30:01) Fighting for strength, wisdom embodied
(02:41:18) Entity personalities
(02:47:14) Closing thoughts
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