It's not helpful to just rip everything, you know, every idea that I have to rip it to shreds. We get into these conversations and I don't even know how to guide the conversation in a direction that lends itself to being productive. It feels like he instantly gets defensive and then. So no collaboration is happening. There's no exchange or equal exchange. And we can also assume there's a little bit this sort of tearing down the ideas does also have like a pessimist tinge to it.

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