I Am and You Are Not and God Gives Everything to Me

Catherine's theology often is about trust, absolute trust in God and one of these things that God says to her when she's trying to contemplate this is that I am and you are not. That sort of resonates with her whole life and how she tries to live into the truth that God is the source of all existence and I'm not and God gives everything to me. St. John of the Cross who talks a lot about desire and the idea of giving up desire as you mentioned Dr. Klein is this idea of penance and renunciation we call it the nada in Spanish.