David Chalmers is probably the most well-known and respectable representative of the other side of the people who think that you need something beyond just the laws of physics as we currently know them to account for consciousness. We'll talk about various philosophical issues and you know I won't pin him down on anything. My point here is not to convince David Chalmers in real time that he's wrong but rather to let you the listeners hear what his perspective is on these issues and then hear what my perspectives are. Maybe you will change your mind either right now or sometime down the road. So this is a fun conversation I'm sure you'll like it and let's go.

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