Ringo Bonham or Charlie Watts?

Ringo's kick drum and snare, that relationship is like nothing I've ever heard anyone get. He just knew how to hit a drum and get out of the way. And then on top of that had this gift for dynamics and sound with all of that stuff. But he wasn't just one of those, hey, tune up my drums and I'll sit down and play him. Like he had, he had that 26 inch kit kick and he, all he would have, he had nothing in it. There was just like a piece of felt either on the batter side or the, what are the resonance side? "I think there's a lot of muscularity just built into