I was chairman. I talked to Henry a lot, but Henry ran the business and I was involved with other things. But in general, Henry and I ran that business and did a great job. So guilt, you actually stepped in and were the CEO. And that was one of the rocket ships of all time, certainly in New York. Right. Like what was the phenomenon behind it at the time?... You couldn't buy Mark Jacobs at 50% off unless you went by a sample sale when there were 200 people waiting in line. The highest watermark in valuation, General Atlantic, that around at 650 like a billion. Oh, a billion Wow.

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