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321: Set a Goal, and Just Get After It. With Retired SEAL, Chris Gifford.

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You Got the Job?

"I don't really consider myself an artist. I'm artistic and I can, I understand, you know, how to do it," he says. "But I wanted to run the business." He started playing sax in eighth grade with a friend of his who was also a musician. The band went on tour for three years before they were able to make more money.

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