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71 // Programmable ink with James Lindenbaum and Szymon Kaliski

Metamuse

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Introduction

Adam Wiggins is joined by James London Mom and Shimon Kiyoski from Incan Switch. They talk about their work in industrial research, the cocktail prep ritual and more. Adam: "This podcast isn't about me as the product, it's about the small team and the big ideas"

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