Collaboration and Lobbying

I think there could be more of that. It is complicated right because there's so many different parties that you need to bring to the table I'm sure you've had, you know, the challenge of scheduling a workshop where you need lots of different people and you need them all there or else you're not going to get the right solution. And when I think of designers collaborating with policymakers I don't think of the designers maybe I'm putting the super hero. The reason why the reason why this question popped into my head was just thinking about individual designer and kind of that that powers in individual designer and the enthusiasm. That made me think of what yeah, especially in America, then once you