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"I just want like I would like there to be equal access to shitty jobs and life affirming good jobs," she said. "There are plenty of women who are in roles that they're miserable in and that don't have eyes down." She added: "But it's messy. Like when there's men who dominate the field, like women feel uncomfortable and like whatever"
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