Simon: We won't see them, I think, by ten years. Or people will use them like people are using flip-floms now. They'll use them as paper-ways. To hold down your fucking recipes on your kitchen counter. My point remains is like the phone itself, if this didn't have a camera, you might- I don't know. And we want better cameras on the- So you're in from better technology? Yes. None of us wants to decouple from the grid.

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