How vaccine trials use active placebos

Joel explains vaccines often use other vaccines as placebos, limiting absolute safety conclusions.

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In this episode, Dr. Jockers talks with Dr. Joel Warsh about what doctors aren't taught about vaccines in medical school and why long-term safety research is still missing. They explore how the rise in chronic illness among kids might connect to current vaccine practices.

Dr. Warsh explains why asking hard questions isn't being "anti-science" — it's how we make medicine safer. He shares why vaccine schedules should be personalized and how real informed consent helps parents make better choices.

Together, they break down what's actually in vaccines, how they're tested, and why open, honest conversations about health are long overdue.

In This Episode:

00:00 Introduction: Vaccine Safety Concerns

02:38 Interview Introduction: Dr. Joel Warsh

02:51 The Chronic Disease Epidemic in Children

04:06 Personal Stance on Vaccination

06:33 The Rise of Chronic Diseases in Children

08:28 Factors Contributing to Chronic Diseases

09:50 Political and Environmental Influences on Health

17:30 The Role of Medications in Modern Health

19:29 Medical Training and Nutrition

23:59 Historical Context of Vaccines

30:32 How Vaccines Work and Personalized Medicine

33:59 Exploring Vaccine Reactions and Genetic Testing

36:38 The Controversy Surrounding Hepatitis B Vaccine

41:21 Questioning Vaccine Safety and Placebo Studies

45:42 Concerns About Vaccine Ingredients

59:33 The Need for Better Vaccines and Open Discussion

01:03:58 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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