Up Down Up is now available as an audiobook on Audible!

https://www.amazon.com/UP-DOWN-companies-succeed-others/dp/B0CR7T9DPT

In this episode, Kim Nordstrom joins the podcast to discuss his journey in the gaming industry, from releasing his first game in 1995 to significant roles at PlayStation, King, and Paradox.

The conversation delves into topics from his book 'Up, Down, Up,' exploring what it takes to build a successful game company, the importance of culture and psychological safety, and the challenges of transitioning between growth and maturity phases.

Kim also shares insights from his interviews with top industry leaders and how these experiences have shaped his current role as CEO of PlayerUnknown Productions.

01:05 Kim Nordstrom's Career Journey

03:06 The Making of 'Up, Down, Up'

06:31 Exploring Company Growth Patterns

10:19 The Importance of Company Culture

30:16 Understanding Psychological Safety

43:03 The Importance of Actions Over Words

44:10 Changing Culture Through Leadership

46:20 The SEAL Team Leadership Experiment

47:32 Scaling Teams and Maintaining Culture

48:57 Principles and Values in Leadership

53:34 The Role of Timing in Success

58:58 Navigating Growth and Maturity Phases

01:11:25 Challenges of Innovating Within Established Companies

01:24:32 Reflections on Leadership and Wisdom

01:28:43 Conclusion and Final Thoughts