Are You First Interested in Security?

Jeffrey Toobin: I was studying evolutionary biology with Brett Weinstein, Heather Heying at Evergreen State College in Olympia. And shortly before then, I had been very religious. So like when I deconverted, I was like, wait, okay, evolution is true. When he read The Selfish Gene and learned that you can make predictions using the mechanisms ofEvolutionaryBiology to help predict future events it just seemed like this might be a practical skill that could be useful.Toobin: It's really interesting how these two things came along beside each other but they were totally first for me.