Erik sits down with Alex Lieberman, co-founder of Morning Brew @MorningBrew, and host of Founder's Journal and 60 Second Startup. Riverside.fm is a presenting sponsor of Media Empires. Go to https://creators.riverside.fm/MediaEmpires + use code MEDIAEMPIRES for 20% off individual plans.

In this interview, Erik and Alex discuss the different levels of content, investing in creators, and much more. Learn how Alex thinks about working with creators' businesses, choosing platforms, and formats for niche creators.

Media Empires is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: www.turpentine.co

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Episode Preview

(02:46) Positioning Morning Brew

(07:13) Where does the business come from?

(08:42) Levels of Content

(14:05) Working with creators’ businesses

(18:50) Investing in Creators

(21:52) Pairing creators with COO’s

(27:00) The Atomic for creators

(28:20) Would Erik need a management arm if he ever started an Atomic for creators?

(31:56) The four categories of creator businesses

(37:26) Commerce vs software for creators

(40:31) Youtube for B2B Creators

(42:28) John Coogan's long term game

(43:15) How Alex thinks about picking platforms and durability of the business

(45:39) Formats for niche creators like watch or cigar creators

(49:09) Alex's advice for Erik on podcast networks

(48:43) How Alex is thinking about his experience as a creator

(50:58) The future of Morning Brew's content

(52:05) Alex's closing thoughts on why you should be a creator

LINKS:

Morning Brew's Website: https://www.morningbrew.com/daily

SOCIALS:

Alex's Twitter: https://twitter.com/businessbarista

Morning Brew's Twitter: https://twitter.com/morningbrew

Erik's Twitter: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg

Music Credit: BNUEVM75G9VD4ZY6