Naked Bible 138: What Day was Jesus Born?
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The Collection of Signs in Revelation 12 Isn't Particularly Rare
There are other celestial portents, celestial things going on in this scene that were nevertheless present during the time of jesus birth. And these other things would hae been taken as indications of the birth of a divine king to both jews and gentiles. So they're one of the problems that you get with people trying to use revelation 12, like to plot the second coming - which i think is ridiculous.
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