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Creating Art as a Couple with Jimmy Chin and Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi

Wild Ideas Worth Living

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How to Allude to Things in Climbing

I had a lot of hang ups on Maru because I would be like, oh they have to understand that this is why. And normally it didn't matter because people understood it on kind of a visceral level. But then in some moments, it's very helpful, like in the boulder problem. Explaining that move alone kind of expresses so many things across the entire climb. So you just have to find these moments where, and choose your moments where you really kind of dive in.

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