Barbara Walters: I think the conflactiona you just articulated, barbara, between the science and then the business and the marketing and the politics. And we see that with the vaccines. I've heard people say, i i'm not going to get a vaccine. Trust big farma. So im separating out the science from what the science really says from, you know, marketing and, om the politics and business. Those are sort of separate issues. Not that they're unrelated but i think when people are am doubling down on the political issue or the economic issue, they flate a little bit of that with their resistance to the science.

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