The Dig is a podcast from Jacobin Magazine. This episode features an interview with Robin Kelly on his classic book Freedom Dreams, the black radical imagination. If you're a fan of The Dig and can afford it, please support us at patreon.com slash the dig. A contribution of $10 or more a month will send you a book or books in the mail, a dig tote bag or a dig mug. We also have things to send you as thank you gifts.