You Come Out as Someone Else, Right?

There's the first phase, right? Assault on identity, guilt, self betrayal. They get to a branking point, then there's when you get to the breaking point. And then it gets into the final confession and rebirth. I don't think those people necessarily know what they're doing. People who are being paid to come in and do this as seminars maybe pro yo have some idea of the process that's taking place.