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CHAPTER

Negotiations and Dining Delights

This chapter humorously recounts a sports agent's disastrous negotiation experiences, filled with failed offers and record insults, while also sharing amusing anecdotes from a recent dinner with a friend known for his eccentric behavior. The hosts explore the lighthearted complications of dinner arrangements and the comedic moments that arise from their social gatherings.

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Speaker 1
I don't know if you know this, but a couple of weeks ago, he broke the record set by any agent for the most times he's been insulted by an offer. Oh, really? Yeah. How many times? I think it's 223 times. out of the 226 offers he's gotten 223 of them. He's really insulted and doesn't even know how he's going to counter. I'm not,
Speaker 2
you know what? I'm not even going to bring this to him because I know he will fucking, I
Speaker 1
can't bring that to him. I can't. It's too insulting. I'm not going to insult him. The best part is when he
Speaker 2
recounts the story of his negotiation and he's laughing and he's so pleased with himself. And, you know, I was
Speaker 1
breaking his balls, baby. This fucking guy. And then I said,
Speaker 2
you know, there's a time years ago where I am. It's a long time ago. I think I was on the man show at the time. Titleist wanted to do some commercials with me, you know? Yeah. And a new ball. I'm not a golfer, you know? So, but I think that that was kind of the hook, right? So, um, I wrote these commercials and, um, and I remember it was like, uh, it was like $150,000 to do like three commercials. And the, and the deal was I would, um, I would talk real seriously about, you know, golf and the ball and you know how important it is and then i put the ball on the tee and you'd see my horrible form and i'd hit the ball you know and then the tag was it's not the ball's fault right right so that's a good idea anyway the guy who runs title list apparently had not seen the man show after the deal was made they um they're like uh oh you know what uh these scripts are really funny but we can't uh you know we can't have jimmy kimmel uh speaking for title list so uh we're gonna back out of the deal and dixon was like fuck you you are you know he's fucking so he squeezed them for half the money and also three sets of golf clubs he wanted one for himself one and the other two for himself and one for my father who has never played golf in his whole life he just decided to throw that in there i was like well that's nice you know why would you why did you um uh why my father like well how did that even come in his head he's like i just wanted another set there for when I come out to LA. And he wanted two sets for himself. It's funny. One for my father.
Speaker 1
I was thinking yesterday, because I guess he didn't want us to mention this, but we had dinner with him last night, which is a whole other saga. But I think he's the most consistent person in my life. He's always in the same mood at all times with the same energy, no matter what time of day it is. I was walking around LA like a month and a half ago and he was here and somebody was driving by and waving at me. I'm like, who's that? And the car turns around and it's baby who is smoking in his rental car we get out we talk in a parking lot and he has like three Marlboro Reds in 20 minutes and we're just in this random parking lot as I recall
Speaker 2
you were like 11 miles from your house right I was
Speaker 1
pretty far away and somehow he recognized me and uh could not have been more excited yeah so we had dinner with him. And I guess we have to announce this. Our friend Daniel was suspended for a game. One game suspension. You called him Draymond Kellison.
Speaker 2
Because Baby was mad about his last two performances and wouldn't have refused to invite him. I think it's important to mention that Baby is going to be furious that we discuss this. Because he doesn't want to go through a whole thing or whatever but yes he was he had to serve a one game suspension a one night dinner suspension because dixon did not like his behavior at the last the first ever one dinner suspension by the, can you imagine him not liking someone's behavior at the dinner? Last night at the dinner, the wine guy comes in and he starts talking about, you know, some brothers who made this bottle of wine. He's like, baby. And he knows full well what the answer is. He's like, is it OK if I smoke in here? And the guy goes, he's the sommelier. He doesn't want to be the bad guy. He's like, well, I mean, I'm not going to tell you not to smoke, but I, the guy's very timid. And he's like, so I can see. So, you know, if I, I light up in here, I'm like, baby, you cannot smoke. You can't smoke in here. Like I
Speaker 1
said, I said, baby, it smells like beautiful wood and wine. Yeah. This is an cigarette odor to this.
Speaker 2
Yeah. I said, they're going to be very, very unhappy. And it's like, everything's a negotiation. Like, and then he gives up, but it's like they owe him something because they didn't let him smoke in the room. Well,
Speaker 1
the craziest thing is, was we found out there was a guaranteed fee. I'm in a room, a minimum that we had to spend on food and drinks. And Sal couldn't go because it was his anniversary. Yeah. No. And then his wife's birthday, his wife's birthday. And then Daniel was on a one dinner suspension. So the two people who would have been the most excited that we had to spend enough food and drink to get to the minimum,
Speaker 2
we're not there. Yeah. Yeah. It was, you know, there were a lot of missed opportunities last night, but this is going to be good. In fact, maybe I'll try it. You know what I'm going to do? Okay. So this is going to be, this, you're going to like this. I'm going, when I tell baby doll, who's here somewhere at my house that we talked about the dinner on the podcast yeah i'm gonna try to tape i'm gonna unbeknownst to him tape his reaction to it and put it on it's and then you can put it at the end of this episode okay that would be great okay
Speaker 1
we'd probably have to have some bleeps well
Speaker 2
yeah i mean but you know i here's my prediction of how it's gonna go like baby, I have bad news. Uh, Simmons and I talked about dinner last night. No, you fucking didn't. Yeah. Yeah. We did. Oh my God. And then he's going to, he's going to get quiet. Um, but, uh, yeah, I'll tape it and we'll see if I'm right.
Speaker 1
Okay.
Speaker 2
All right.

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