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Is Heroku the Next Heroku?
Muse, Incan Switch and Heroku are all separate entities. They're kind of coupled ideas or say the very intertwined in the sense of what they're trying to do in terms of impact. For me, success would be okay if it helped get people thinking about how computers can be better for allowing us to be more thoughtful. And then there's a lot of sub elements of that I think as well, which is like this local first sync,. This is a huge track of research for, for Incan Switch, but would be a seismic shift for the industry.