John Defterios: I think there is a kind of software and meta protocol by which systems could advertise to each other their capabilities. And so like pull a little soft space pseudopod in volitionally, right? It's not coming at you, but you pull it in and you can play with it. But one of the interesting things that I don't think is on anybody's radar is what you just said, John defterios says. There could be a companion app that says, Oh, hey, Jerry, you're walking into a setting a situation where you might want to run a simulation or do systems analysis using kumu.