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Cariad Lloyd on what she's learnt from 25 years in The Grief Club

The Shift with Sam Baker

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Carrie was already a goth and then her dad died. She says she felt like the world has this other side to it that's depressing. When you were pregnant weren't you and you just started therapy. And I'm quite interested in how all those things intersect. You can never be like well now I've got it I understand it I'll never be affected by it but I certainly don't mind being the person who's willing to talk about it because I want to. So it's a modica I don't really believe in but I'm also happy to joke about it.

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