Credit-Arbitrage and Deploying Capital On-Chain

This week Kyle Samani joins the show to discuss the successful $1.65B raise for Forward Industries. We deep dive into how Forward Industries plan to converge between traditional markets & DeFi, the ultimate vision for the Solana treasury company, the difference between SOL & BTC DATs & why stablecoins are crypto's iPhone moment. Enjoy!

Although our guest this week is an Investment Partner of a registered investment adviser, nothing in this podcast should be considered an offer of Multicoin’s investment advisory services or should otherwise be confused for investment, tax, legal or other financial advice.

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(1:25) The Ultimate Vision For Forward Industries

(8:54) Raising $1.65B For Forward Industries

(10:52) Partnering With Jump & Galaxy

(16:31) Ads (Katana & EigenCloud)

(17:28) Integrating DATs Into DeFi

(25:22) M&A Strategies

(30:00) BTC vs SOL DATs

(32:28) Ads (Katana & EigenCloud)

(33:36) How Will SOL ETFs Impact Solana DATs?

(35:45) What's Next For Forward Industries?

(41:55) Lessons Learned From Hyperliquid's USDH

(46:36) Allora Ad

(47:08) The Internet Capital Markets Thesis

(53:58) Stablecoins Are Crypto's iPhone Moment

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.