Demographics and Democracy: A Playful Exploration

In this episode, we dive into a series of topics starting with controversial statements from Hillary Clinton regarding immigration and fertility rates. We then move to analyze unexpected trends in cultural behaviors and fetishes across different American regions. The hosts also discuss the perceived failures and intentions behind the Democratic approach to immigration, highlighting the recent reactions of institutions like the Episcopal Church and their handling of white South African refugees. Towards the end, there is a reflection on historical and cultural differences within American populations, including a personal anecdote involving film crews and the hosts' children. Join us for an engaging and thought-provoking discussion.

Hello Simone. I am excited to be here with you today. And today we are going to be exploring through a few chains of evidence starting with Hillary Clinton. Great replacement theorist.

Now, apparently,

Conspiracist Malcolm, not even theorist, she's a, she's making it happen.

She, she is going out there. And, and telling these lies that immigrants have far more children than native born Americans, and that that's why they are being brought into the country. It's not a good look in advocating for this.

the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025, despite Trump saying he knew nothing about it, if you had read it, it's all in there. It's all in there. return to the family, the nuclear family , return to being a Christian nation return to, you know, producing a lot of children. Which is sort of odd because the people who produce the most children in our country are immigrants and they wanna.

Deport them. So none of this adds up. But you know, one of the reasons why our economy did so much better than comparable advanced economies across the world is because we actually had a replenishment, because we had a lot of immigrants legally and undocumented. Who had a you know, larger than normal by American standards family.

And, and she even points out illegal and legal immigrants. And you're not like, oh, maybe she just means legal immigrants. No, she's explicitly like. We are doing okay demographically because we, the Democrats got you guys so many illegal immigrants and they're having way more kids in the native population and that's why we brought them in, but.

I wanna be contrasting this sort of like weird mask off moment with Hillary Clinton, which was fun 'cause she also cited our policy proposals in this. So now I know Hillary Clinton is watching stuff that we are putting out. But we're gonna be contrasting this with also the reaction to the very small handful of 60 white immigrants from South Africa that has caused massive changes in leftist policy positions.

For example, the Episcopal Church in the United States shut down its programs to help immigrants just so it wouldn't have to help this very small pool of white immigrants. Wow. And for a lot of them it was like, wait, wait, what about the people they care about? Well, apparently they care about them less than making sure they don't help a single white immigrant.

That's pretty screwed up. Like even if I was like super racist against white people, but there were some white people in a larger sample of non-white people that I wanted to help.

I don't know, like. I mean, we see now the way they would respond, they'd say, we won't, we won't do it. We won't help out of principle.

And I think that this is the horrifying aspect to all of this, and as, as, as we go into this, is we are increasingly seeing, and so often it's like slippery slope stuff with, with. You know, far left positions where they'll say, oh, you know, we would never say that. We would never fight for that. Like, that's just a crazy slippery slope argument.

That's a conspiracy theory. And then five years later they're like, well, why do you think we were letting in so many immigrants? You know, it's like this is the what, this is what's always been the case, don't you know? And we're like, wait, you said this was a conspiracy theory. You very firmly told us this was a conspiracy theory like five to 10 years ago.

In fact, the Keisha cancellation that just happened, the Fox Zoo girls, the Sweet Fox Foxing girl who was canceled by a CINA byte this girl. She, and, and, and note here, when I say set, I'm not saying that all trans people aresa bytes, I'm saying that there is a specific category of human that has spent their entire life searching for pleasure and self validation, and it has scrambled their mind.

And now all they can do or get satisfaction from is hurting other people. And, and so. She was canceled. What they used to cancel her was saying that she was a great replacement theorist when what she was doing in that very video, which she was accused of, was simply disgusting. A speech given by a leftist politician in the UK who had these concerns.

Like a elected politician, one of the, I think one of the heads of the major parties in the UK right now. So we're, we're gonna be discussing all of this together. I, I also said, it's funny with Hillary covering one of our policy proposals that this isn't the first time.

As I posted the other day, this very blatant effort to basically send a message most exemplified by Vance and Musk and others, that you know what we really need from you, women are more children. , And what that really means is you should go back to doing what you were born to do, , which is to produce more children.

And they're talking about, you know, medals. If you have six children so this is another performance about concerns they allegedly have for, , family life.

So this is just another one of their, you know, make America great again by returning to the lifestyles and the economic arrangements of not just the 1950s. I mean, let's keep going back as far as we can and, you know, see what happens.

Jedidiah, this is my roommate. And what shall I call this embodiment of virtue? Virtue. Come again? Virtue, obedience, Hawkins. Good name, no doubt. Names do not carry us to the golden gates, for certain. No doubt. We're gonna have a bonfire out back, eat some s'mores. Your thirst for s'more will ultimately give you some less.

And you will be consumed upon the bonfire of vanity.

We're just gonna leave you two alone. I am never alone in the company of men. Come in, silence!

A sage choice which will make our gathering a blessed evening? I will be gone by evening. Those who court when the sun descends court the devil's design for certain? Ah, yes

People may not know this deep lore Malcolm, but Bill Clinton actually gave a speech about me a few decades ago over, probably three decades ago about at this point.

But it was at this event. Called Renaissance Weekend, which was this like exclusive event for influential people, and my dad was attending, and so I go and so all the kids who go have to give a speech to all the, to rooms full of famous people. And so I, I go and, and, and give a speech. And there was a cardinal in the room.

And the speech that I had given and that everyone else had given on the kids panel was on, the, the country, like states, like each of us chose a state and we researched it. It was a very kid project. Anyway, so this cardinal big mucky mutt comes up and he goes what do you think God is?

Or What do you think God is like? And all the, the other kids go down and they give the very generic answers, and I. Come up very confrontational, and I go first of all, sir, that is completely off topic. And, and then I say, and second of all, God is everything that I want to be. Bless. I, of course, saw this as a very, nothing

has changed.

I meant lightning hands.

I wanted palpatine powers. I wanted to be the most powerful entity in the universe and blah. Right? But they're, they're

reading this totally differently 'cause cute little boy saying it. So it just, assuming a boy wants to be faithful and good and just like Jesus and yeah.

So anyway, bill Clinton goes up against a speech at the event because apparently it went viral at the event that some little kid had said this and everyone was talking about it.

Bill Clinton goes up and I think he used me as like the center point of the speech and the speech was about how the next generation needs to be better than this generation and that, you know, young boys like this Malcolm Collins, well, they're gonna go and do big things one day they're gonna go and change the world one day.

Yeah.

Propose that mothers get medals so that his wife can defenestrate for them. For the, the audacity.

Suggesting that yes, his wife can come out and be like, now I'm the thorn in their side that they're reading about in papers. You wanted

the tine lightning hands. You're getting

there. Slowly but surely.

I am. I am forced torturing them from afar. That is, that is why we invite the press over. That's why we're doing this, is just to torture the Clintons. Oh my God. Oh my God. But it is. It is great. It is great. Okay, so. First before we go into the South African thing, because I think this is really telling, what were your thoughts on hearing this Clinton speech?

I was surprised because immigrant fertility levels just plummet after they come to the United States. The only immigrant. Fertility level that goes up from my understanding is South Koreans because, well, they

plummet based on their native country's fertility often. Mm-hmm. But it off in, in many cases historically.

Now, keep in mind, in Latin America today, I'm pretty sure now over half of Latin American countries are well below the US in terms of TFR. Higher fertility rate. Oh. But historically they were higher fertility rate and a lot of immigrants came from historically higher country. Well, I think a lot of older

generations just stick with stats that they've read 15 to 20 years ago.

So yeah, I mean, maybe she's just running off of information she knows. It also makes me think about recent information that's come out of Doge where they've, in doing basically small audits and samples of either asylum or illegal immigrant populations. Finding that some have indeed voted just makes me feel like there was a little bit more of this.

Yeah. We really are just going to bring in immigrants, illegal or otherwise and then ingratiate them to us and use that to gain a majority of the voting populace in the United States and that the expectation was that they would be high fertility. The expectation was that they would. The Democrats and that, that would help the Democrat.

Cause what they said this

very explicitly, you saw a lot of gloating of the Democrats says, oh, well, you know, the, the white voter is gonna become the minority voter and, and demographics are changing. And by this they meant, you know, more and minority voters and that that is going to make them the forever party.

And what they didn't expect, but every Republican ever, always said. Is that the Latin American vote is coming to the right. And in the last election, you know, over 50% of Latin American men voted for Trump, right? Like the vote has moved extremely to the right. And they always should have expected that.

I, I think one of the things that, that dims get so wrong about Latin Americans, because they view them through a racist lens of being a single culture the, the Latinx mythical culture is they don't understand how much Latin Americans are racist against other Latin Americans. Mm-hmm. That aren't their particular country or background.

Which we were horrified to discover when we. Oh, when we bought, yeah.

So our company, everybody who works with us is Latin American. And we regularly, because inter Latin American country racism is tolerant and normalized. Like, oh, you're a Cuban. Oh, you're a Venezuelan. Oh, you're a whatever. Like, you must be like X, Y, and Z or you can't handle this type of task.

And so we have to deal with that and it's very hard for us to deal with without ourselves crossing.

Here's the weird thing I, I was just listening this morning to someone talking in a podcast about how they grew up in a kind of colorblind environment, but it was one in which then everyone in his very diverse friend group growing up like would use racial slurs all the time.

And there's this weird, I don't know if it's a horseshoe or a full circle with racism where. When you get, there's, I, I almost feel like this like very happy medium where like people acknowledge stereotypes or tendencies or averages and make fun of them, but also don't use them to judge or stereotype other people.

Like they allow people to speak for themselves instead of, yeah. They're well,

what's

your point? You were saying that this is the way you, my point is that like, I don't know if our office was racist. I just think that they had huge, they'd be like,

no, no, no. Simone, Latin Americans,

Argentinians, do this.

And like,

yeah, some, some, but Latin Americans are actually fairly racist against other Latin Americans. Okay. If we example, you look at like Mexico, take Mexico as an example. Their policies. Remember when everyone freaked out about like the stop and ask for somebody's ID laws in Arizona that would like Sheriff Joe and how evil that policy was and everything, and how racist that's the standard policy in Mexico for, for, for the way they treat other Latin Americans like the, and in the US this policy was seen as horrifyingly racist.

So yeah, no, it's, it's pretty normalized. So you have that. So basically they tried to pull off a great replacement. They have admitted this now, but they were, they didn't get the stats right. They, they won. Completely missed that. Latin Americans are much closer to conservatives, culturally, and, and, and, and goal-wise.

And that two that they, drop in fertility rate dramatically after coming to the country to the point where they, they dwindle pretty quickly. And it makes sense, you know, you're putting them in an environment and in a culture that they haven't evolved alongside for very, very long periods of time.

And how much of who you are, is cultural and evolved, I think is hugely undersold. One of the graphs that you were showing me today, which just shook me because I was like, wait, what? That can't be that cannot be a thing, is you looked up polyamory on Google trends to see where it trended the most.

Well, because you had just said to me that some communities. I was starting to turn against it and I was like, that can't be, it has to be at peak right now, and it's not,

it's starting to trend downward in 2021

peak, but can you guess which state has the highest interest in polyamory? It's silver gonna, you're gonna hear this and you're gonna be like, oh, it must be one of those like far progressive states, right?

Yeah. Like

Massachusetts

or New

Hampshire

or Washington. A state or an environment that would've had a historic evolutionary reason where people who normalized to their partners sharing other people having more kids. That wouldn't be the one where polyamory is the biggest. No, it's Utah. It's Utah by a big margin team.

It, and, and I saw this and I was like, wow, sir. Like this hits the main population. And so, you know, not wanting to be, a stick in the mud, right? Like, I'm like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna look at my own culture. Right. I'm gonna be like, okay. I'm from the backwoods culture. We've done videos on it before.

This is a culture that is historically known for like extreme levels of violence. Like ripping out people's eyes was really common, was in it. If you look at the stereotype of someone from this culture in, in horror movies and stuff like this, the greater Appalachian culture, the hillbilly people, you know, they, they will hunt you down and kill you and eat you.

So I was like, okay. This is definitely gonna prove that this is not, a persistent phenomenon. So I'm like, I'm gonna look up for and see where it is most searched.

, this is a fetish for seeing people be eaten.

Okay. I was certain it'd be like Manhattan or, or California,

because who else is gonna be in an urban in whatever enough environment to even know about such a niche?

Right,

right.

So it was West Virginia. But again, stereotypes, stereotypes, the exist that is the, that is the heart of the greater Appalachian culture. So I was like. Oh my god. Stereotypes.

Now if you are a perceptive listener, you might be thinking to yourself, oh, come on Malcolm. That isn't the only negative stereotype about the greater Appalachian people. I noticed you didn't take time to search incest by region, and so I decided to, and yes, West Virginia and the greater Appalachian region has the highest search rates for incest as well.

Two very important notes here. This is not to say that the majority of people who are Mormon ancestry are into their partner sleeping with other people, or the majority of people who have. Backwoods ancestry, , are into, you know, hunting down and eating people or incest. , This is not to say I am into one of these things, , in the same way that a Mormon could find this interesting and cover this without being it in, into it themselves.

, We're just saying that the rates are slightly higher in these regions. , And we were able to predict, just guessing, okay, where would there have been evolutionary pressure for these unique arousal patterns? And then we did the searches and it came up. It's not like I did the searches and then I back put the data onto it, but I decided to be like, okay, well what is something That I have talked about finding uniquely hot. I have talked about thinking vampires are uniquely hot. Let's see if that is something that clusters with backwoods ancestry. So I did a search of that and wouldn't you know it, . Kentucky, Arkansas, Utah, West Virginia, and Louisiana. So again, very backwards, heavy. Was a Utah thrown in there. So that's an area where, where I and Mormons have, , overlap.

Okay, I decided to have a bit more fun with this question. So I Google Trends for s and m. In this case it came up so strong, West Virginia. I have never seen a search result. , This originally locked, the, the next highest one, , where West Virginia gets a hundred on this one. The next highest one is 69 in Louisiana.

Okay. I can't just be picking on my own people and Mormons here. So let's look at which search term is uniquely high in Catholic states, , states like California and Texas. Well, here you have NTR. You don't know what NTR is. .

which translates to being cheated on.

Specifically arousal that arises from the emotional distress of being cheated on, which would contrast it with something like polyamory as an arousal pattern.

As to what evolutionary pressure could have caused this, I have literally no idea. I.

That said, it doesn't seem to overlap with the general Catholic population, just the Latin American population. In fact, you can see that the NTR search term has an almost perfect overlap with the percent Latin American, a state is.

Okay, here's a fun one. Guess what is uniquely concentrated in the Cavalier or deep South cultural group search results for the term scat, which is what somebody would be searching for if they had a, , poo fetish. I wonder, I wonder why that is.

So I hate that I am the one who confirmed this. Uh, my cultural group is apparently literally and actually murderous incestuous hill people. and again, I need to clarify. This is not me saying I have any of those arousal patterns.

Or that the average person from this cultural group has these arousal patterns. It would still be, the minority of people within this cultural group just slightly higher than in other cultural groups.

Hello officer. . We have had a doozy of a day, a real doozy. there we were. Yep. minding our own business. Yep. When all of a sudden out of nowhere, these kids started killing themselves all over my property.

Yeah. Thi this one right here, he dove head first, right into the wood. Chipper in the woody right back there. There's another one who shoved the spear through his gullet I think they might be trying to kill the girl that we have inside. Look, girl, you know what? She can maybe explain the whole thing , if I hadn't have knocked her. Unconscious with a shovel on accident. On accident.

Yeah, she's in my bedroom.

But the point I'm making here is people's proclivities do co-evolve with a culture that they're in. And if you take somebody from one culture and you pick them up and you plop them in another culture, this is also why in the video where we pointed out why doesn't Christian work for East Asians?

And in that video we point out that despite the low fertility rates you see within Buddhist and Confucian culture in Korea, for example. Christians, both Protestants and Catholics have a lower fertility rate than Korean Buddhists or Confucians. And it's the same with Japanese. And we, we go across the region.

We said that this is a very persistent phenomenon. And it's, it, it, it only makes sense worse when we take in immigrants, we often put them into fertility shredders like the centers of large cities. So they have incompetently handled this. We are not great replacement theorists because I do not think it worked, but I do think that some people thought this was going to work.

Not to keep in mind, I don't know if it was intention to like replace the white population. I think the goal of this was to get a, a voter block that they thought they could control and manipulate. Yeah. Yeah. And they just catastrophically effed that up. As, as I've, I've also pointed out, because we're very close with the Latin American community, a lot of people don't know why the Latin American community went so far, right so quickly.

Mm-hmm. One of the big reasons was if you look at the LA riots you know, today, for example, Korean immigrants are, are famously pretty right-leaning compared to other Asian groups.

Fun fact, the only Asian group more conservative than Koreans is Vietnamese.

Mm-hmm. And one of the things that happened to their early communities in the United States is during the LA riots you know, they were a recent and poor immigrant group at the time.

And so their communities were around the black communities, and so they were the businesses that were targeted. And this where you get the famous, you know, Korean rooftop sniper. In, in the recent, while you wouldn't have heard about this on the news, the communities that were being burned down and the businesses that were being burned down were predominantly Latin American.

In these, these recent riots, and they did not go into the white neighborhoods really. They were just going to the adjacent neighborhoods that were easy to target. And while the news may not have covered this, Latin Americans transmit news and information about the world through extended family networks.

And all of them know about this. Like most Latin Americans I know have a family member who lost everything because of that. And they saw how. Both the liberals covering this up and the liberals not caring and cheering for this, you know, it's Tim Walt saying, you know, his, his wife smelled the fires of, you know, the like, oh, this is a great day.

During the burning. Those fires were likely first generation immigrant businesses burning down. You know, that's, that's what you were smelling. And, and you know, like one of those games where you make a choice in those old tell tell games and it goes, they will remember that, popped on screen when she did that.

Mm-hmm. They, they will remember this. So I, I think that, that it has been incompetently handled and it didn't achieve what they wanted it to achieve.

Yeah.

Now if I go to this other thing I thought was even more interesting because I, they've, they've come more out about this whole. No, it wasn't about immigrants for us, it wasn't about anything like that.

It was about specifically non-white immigrants, right? Yeah. So if you, here, you have the Episcopal Church through its Episcopal Migration Ministries. EEM announced on May 12th, 2025 that it would end its nearly 40 year partnership with the US government for refugee resettlement. And this is

just because for the first time.

In a, at least a very long time, we, we have a program for white refugees coming from South. They had to have, yes.

So this decision was made in response to federal, rural directives to resettle white, African, or immigrants from South Africa.

Hmm.

So this was only 60 people that they had to reset. We'll get into it, you know, there is an active genocide going on in Africa against them right now, you know?

And the excuse that they used is they said, well, these refugees. Shouldn't have gotten a bump over other refugees who have been waiting in the system. And I'm like, then why were you okay with the illegal immigrants? Like clearly they cheated the system. Why were you okay with them? And, and the answer is because that's not why they're mad about this.

They're mad about this because these individuals are white and because it highlights well,

and because Trump chose them when he is deprioritizing a whole bunch of other immigrant groups. That's, well, he's not deprioritizing

well, he, he is. It's slowing down other immigrant. You know, coming here. Okay.

Yeah.

Let's be honest. But

let's go into this other groups that shut down programs, right?

Yeah.

So the US Conference of Catholic Bishops Migration and Refugee Services, the largest refugee resettlement agency, also ended a. Century old program in April 20, 25, century.

Goodness gracious. Yeah.

The Church World Service, another face bait group was the one organization that didn't of, of the major organizations.

And I point out here when people are like, oh, why don't you just come back to the classic churches? Why are you this weird techno puritan thing? Why do you actually read the Bible? Just, you know, let the Catholic clergy handle that for you. And I think that this is why, you know, I look at what the Episcopals have done.

I look at what the Catholics have done, and I see that their organizations were some of the first and most thoroughly corrupted by the, the urban monocultural virus. That this isn't like some far left organization. This is the Episcopal Church in the United States that did this. These organizations are the architects of the most dastardly policies that the left can devise.

Okay. These organizations want you gone. They don't want you to be a part of America. They don't want you to have anything to do with America. They want to have a, a, a population that they believe they can control. And what they didn't realize is that Hispanic immigrants aren't little. Idiotic peons who are gonna do whatever they're told.

They are just like you and me, which is, well, I'm gonna do what's in their best interest.

And I think what a lot of people are seeing is that despite promises to the contrary, the Democratic party has not historically delivered on a lot of people's best interests.

Well, yeah, we've covered this. Even if you look at like black populations, if you, if you look at black populations in the United States when they live in cities that are more Democrat, historically there are gaps between them and the white populations. Now, generally, whether you live in a conservative or a Democrat region, if you are black in the United States, you're typically going to score lower on tests and you're gonna make less money.

But you will be dramatically closer to the white population if you're in a Republican controlled area than if you're in a Democrat controlled area.

Hmm. In

the big study that showed this, it was really fascinating. Now what did this organization that the Episcopal, because I I, I find it ironic just how many people who they said they cared about, they were willing to hurt just to spite 60 white people.

Just how, that's what really gets to

me is you let that go. But I think there's just, it's not just. Racism, Malcolm. I think it's also Trump Derangement syndrome. It's okay. Well, now that you've gotten involved in this, I have nothing to do with it. I'm dropping it.

There's this wrong, I think racism's a bigger part, but we'll talk about that in just a second.

Let's, let's talk about what the organization did. Episcopal Migration Ministries. The refugee resettlement arm of the Episcopal Church facilitated the research settlement of refugees in the United States for nearly 40 years. Their work included receiving refugees assigned by the government, providing initial support such as housing, food, and clothing, offering case management, job placement assistance, English language training, and cultural orientation.

That's awesome. I wonder what their cultural orientation looked like. I mean, you know,

it's, it's a church thing. This is how they get Oh no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If these are organizations that are freaking out about this, I'm sure a bunch of of, you know, crazy trans whatever had gotten into these organizations and with brainwashing these people's kids you, we see this over and over again with the stuff that's coming out of you know, that that organization that they shut down whatever it was, American Aid.

Right. I, I would be very surprised whenever I hear, yeah.

This is the Episcopal Church. Their job is to get. And they,

yeah, that what I'm saying is this is the Episcopal church and they shut all of this down over just not helping 60 white people. They were clearly very, very far down this particular spiral.

Perhaps

you're right.

Operating through a network of 12 affiliates across the United States and Florida. Now I was trying to get how much money had the government given the church to do this. EEM received federal funding through the state Department's Bureau of Population Refugees and Migration.

While exact figures of 2025 funding, I. Are unclear. We know that the program allocated at approximately $1.2 billion for across nine resettlement agencies meaning that they guessed around $207 per refugee for the resettlement costs.

Now if you're like, okay, well there ist a genocide going on in South Africa, right? There have been over 4,000 white farmers killed since 1994. If you're like, yeah, but people get murdered in South Africa all the time. Well, the murder rate for a regular person in South Africa. So keep in mind this is gonna be high.

Yeah. Is 150 per a hundred thousand, I'm sorry, it's not hundred 50. It's, it's 45 per a hundred thousand. Okay.

150 is insane. Yeah. Okay. For, for, for the farmers

it's 150.

Oh, ah, okay. Yeah, there's

some, there's some disparity. So it's over three times higher than your average? Yeah, if I had to. Yeah.

Like if you had to choose to be in a group, which group would you be in?

Yeah, I would clearly not wanna be a farmer. And,

and, and this accounts to 300 to 400 farm murders annually. Which is you know, horrifying to me. And if you wanna get how normalized this is the head of the EFF Julius Malama led the song kill the Boars about the song. Yes. It was a song about killing divorce with a tune in white African, tune out.

It's a tune that it was put together during the apartheid period about how they wanted to eradicate the boars and mm-hmm. He thought that this would be normal. And he is, you know, still a politician. He still works with the ruling party in South Africa. This is, this is normalized. This is what they seeing at political rallies.

Let's kill like these, these farmers. Right. You know?

Okay.

So, yeah, if in the United States we had politicians singing songs like, let's. Hang the, some slur from Africans from the tree. Like, let's hang the African slur from the tree. Everybody, let's dance around the hanging tree. You'd be like, and, and, and an African from the United States said, Hey, I'd really like to leave.

Any country in Europe would consider them a refugee. Any country in Europe would consider them a refugee. Oh, if they,

right. Sorry. Yeah, if they, if,

if, if Donald Trump had done something like that before winning the election. Any country in Europe would consider them, ah you know, this is the, the fact that this is happening and that they have the statistics to prove it, and that the left is still like, no, this isn't happening.

I love that video of them bringing over and ambushing the South African president with videos arguing about his country's racism, and the left freaked out. They're like, he was ambushed. It's like, well, he should have been ambushed, like he is doing a genocide. Do you guys not care? It's like how the left completely doesn't care about the Uyghurs.

Even, even though it's a Muslim group that's being genocided, it's like, oh, but it's cute Little Asians doing it. We can't hate the Chinese. Trump doesn't like them.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. That is a, it is interesting how so much talk is out there about Palestine and yet there's not, I mean, I guess, you know, it's not like the US is actively supporting a ccp, which is in turn.

You know, genocide, uighurs. However, we do have the issue of

the, the left regularly attempts to support the ccp. Ideologically, they argue it's a great place to be. They argue that it's all over the top. It is not really bad. You see this? I mean, remember with the whole TikTok thing and everything like that, the left loves the ccp.

Oh,

oh. Whoops. Again, I guess. My God, I don't know what to say. I just wanna give everyone the, the benefit of the doubt. I, I, it's so hard for me, and I think a lot of this is subconscious. I don't think, you know, when we go back to the episode that we did on how I. On average. In general, progressives are more likely to prioritize a larger circle of identity, including animals and nature and to deprioritize their own internal circle.

Whereas conservatives are more likely to be like my family, my clan, my people, my culture, my country. Like all these things matter a lot more the things that are closer to them. And I think this is more an extension of that, that if there's hatred, it's hatred for your own group. And I wish I could find this.

I, I'm really struggling to find these stats, but there's, I came across information about different groups in the United States, like ethnic groups in the United States and how they felt about Outgroup people. Mm-hmm. And I like the only group that, that hated their own ingroup more than everyone else.

So everyone else is like really cool and chill with, with others, which was great. White people appeared to just hate their own. Like, that was where the bias was. So like in general, my, my takeaway from this research was a lot of different, like there isn't a lot of outgroup hatred with pretty much any ethnic group, but there is ingroup hatred with white people.

Yeah,

and, and like I was pointing out was the like polyamory thing and stuff like that. The other fun thing that we've noted about Mormons is that they do a lot of like swinging compared to other groups. And we have another episode where we talk about that in more detail. Most likely because you had this genetic selection effect was in that culture.

And when we talk about, you know, aggregate differences between cultural groups I. They are persistent. They do matter between white groups. There is not a white population.

I was just talking with Simone about this again yesterday and how sometimes it feels like when we are trying to relate to people from different white cultural groups, they feel almost like a different species. Like I cannot begin to imagine the way that they're perceiving the world or the things that are driving their actions because they seem so foreign to me.

Yeah. And, and well just like

there is not a black population. I mean, as you've pointed out, many, many times in the past, different groups in Africa have more genetic distance from each other than most.

non-African groups, right.

Specifically Europeans and Asians are closer together than most Africans are.

Yeah. So like for us to make this monolith of you are black, you are white, right? But especially you are black. I think

most people, most people who are educated are aware of that. I, dude, I

didn't know that, that blew my mind.

But a lot of

educated people are not aware of. Is how different white groups are, even American white groups. That's fair. And things that you know, you can see in trend data. You can see this in an alive race as we've shown. You can see this in murder rates as we've shown.

Like if you look at the greater Appalachian cultural region, for example, as well, really high murder rates if you can control for cities where cities also have high murder rates.

But if you, if you control for cities there you see like one, a really unusually high murder rates. And it's like, why would you have this predilection for like ultra violence within this cultural group a given their history? We should probably go over that a little bit. It was mostly because they were based in small clans that sort of survived in lawless environments.

Like they were the ones who set up like the regulators. They would either try to keep police out of their territory or set up local informal law. Courts and stuff like that,

right?

And you needed the types of communities when you have these, these very violent, clan based environments where if a neighbor, you know, tries to take a few acres of your land they don't do that because their family's gonna be butchered, right?

Like you, you need that sort of fear. And this is why if you look at maps. Of where different religious or cultural groups in the US spread and where they stopped. In a lot of regions you'll see a lot more mix of cultures and then it's like you hit the, the, like a wall of the greater Appalachian cultural group and, and, and waves just stop.

Often it's like, oh, we're gonna skip that and go immediately over here. Because it was an incredibly dangerous place to be. And this is why if Youer was in this culture and you were. Squeamish about this sort of stuff you would've survived at the same rate. Which is, is, is it means that you're going to see things differently.

And as I pointed out, Catholics and I see this, when I talk to Catholics, they so structurally see things differently. That sometimes I even struggle to have, like I. If then like, long conversations with them because I struggle to understand the way that they structure their arguments. Mm-hmm. And, and this is what I call high Catholics.

Now there's high Catholics and low Catholics. Low Catholics are people who are more like mainstream. High Catholics are the very intellectualized Catholics. Mm-hmm. Like the Irish Catholics and Italian Catholics. I think mostly the Irish Catholics is where you get high Catholics from. And they'll always like come down to like an analogies, to like a beauty and grandeur in the way they're describing something.

I'm like, yeah, but that's not like an argument for something that's, that's, that's like a, a perception. Well, I

think it comes down to. As we described in the Pragmatist Guide to Life Standards of Evidence. So in the Pragmatist Guide to Life, we, we basically say you need an objective function, something you think has intrinsic value that you wanna maximize, or a cluster of things.

Then you need basically an, an ideology, sort of like a hypothesis as to how you will maximize these things, which will be altered as you learn new information. But you also need to under, you have a, basically a, a very disciplined framework for what you believe to be true and what you believe to be.

Acceptable evidence like the, the Wikipedia equivalent of a trusted source. And the, I think the problem is your standard of evidence, you know, what you consider to be a source of truth is very different from some versions of, well, many other people's sources. The truth, especially Catholic, because there's a lot of.

Catholic stuff that really is based off of more aesthetics and feelings and general sentiments rather than here's the data, here's the consequentialist result, et cetera.

Well, and appeals to authority are, are really big, like appeals to this is how things were done in the past. I don't see any of this as like intrinsically negative.

I'm just pointing out that it is structurally different and it means that like when I am engaging with different, I think that there's , a huge. Problem when people try to create like a Pan-American white identity because there isn't a Pan-American white identity.

I remember I was talking with this person online and they said, oh, well there used to be like, if you go back to early America, and I was like, did you, like, were you like not educated about the way the colonies worked? Your average, , you know, Quaker Northerner was more different from your average southern slave owner during that period.

Culturally, speaking of like the Cavalier cultural group, then. I am from your average American Muslim, , in terms of what they ate, , what sort of , , entertainment they consumed as what they did in their free time. , , what type of work they did, how they got to work, what they believed about God.

I mean, yes, they may have been nominally Christians, but for example, the Quaker concept of God was very different than the cavalier concept of God. . Probably more different than your average,

mainstream evangelical American concept of God and your average conservative Muslims concept of God, , which I think would surprise a lot of people who hadn't explored, , the beliefs from that period of American history. If you want to dive deep on this, , check out the book, Albion Seed or American Nations.

there isn't a Pan-American white identity.

I have like culturally, I, for example, am closer to most Latin American immigrant groups than I am to high Catholic groups.

Yeah. I have an easier time talking to them. I have an easier time making arguments. I have more friends in those groups. Mm-hmm. And there's what, you know, we worked in, in, in Latin America, we have a lot of friends who are Latin American. And it's a cultural group that I just get along with really well.

And I think that, yeah, that's, that's really interesting. And I see this in our kids, you know, we had reporters here from Germany and they were just surprised by how much our kids fought that they had like sock bops and they were constantly fighting each other. And I was like, well, kids fight, right?

Like, I fought all the time as a kid. And they're like, yeah, but like the girls fighting, like, what are they doing? And I was like, ah, they're having fun. She always starts at too, which is so funny. And then, and then they like, like one of them would like punch the other and they'd fall over and like, and they'd be like, do you need help?

Little one. And I'd be like, do not cuddle him. If he cries, he's gonna get smacked. Get back up, buddy. You know, and it's, it's funny because I see that we actually had a problem with this on the cruise ship recently. Whereas the way that we raise our children is meant to be. Very rambunctious and aggressive ference tumble.

Cultivate in them. Like we actively work to make them as tough, as aggressive, as uninterested in like being hurt or anything like that as possible. And it's put us in a position where the other children are too fragile for us to leave our kids alone with other kids, especially when our kids are a group.

And it's not like. They're picking on other kids or anything like that. They're actually, I don't think I've ever seen our kids pick on another kid. It's, no, it's

just playing in a very. Rough and tumble way. Enthusiastic way.

Yeah. Well it's one playing in a rough and tumble way, and two, having a dangerous amount of confidence for a young kid.

Like, you know, going up to another kid and being like, Hey, give me your toy. I wanna play with it for a bit. And the other kid's like, they're like, come on sharing. Right? And then, and then the other two like, come up behind him and he is like, yeah, sure, you can play with it for a bit. And then he goes and like cries to his mom.

It's like, dude, if you didn't wanna give it up, then don't give it up. You know, push them away. That's what our kids would've done. But you know, they, so they don't like go up and snatch things from people or anything like that, but they definitely are. They know what they want. Right. Or they'll climb on top.

We kept getting in trouble in the cruise ship because they kept climbing on things or climbing under things. And of course, like we've built our house so that they climb on things. Right. Like that. I I wanted

that. Yeah. Unfor. Yeah. We've, we've fortunately or unfortunately trained our children. I. To climb on old things.

And if you look

at videos from when I was a kid, remember I told you of the stories of me climbing up the side of my house and always getting in trouble with the neighbors on the vines. And we found an old video she was watching because you're just watching videos of like my parents interviewing my granddad.

And then out of the blue you see me climbing up a second story window, like looking in and waving as a like a 5-year-old.

Rig was shut down. They needed some parts for it. Granddaddy, through customers, you're being paged to granddaddy

with their,

uh, the

Like, this is clearly not safe. And my parents. Do not look concerned. They are not like getting up to run out and get me off or like do anything. They're like, oh hey look. He wants to wave at the camera and then they go back to what they're doing.

Classic, classic. Yeah. This is back when kids could be kids. You know, but I remember this from my own childhood. Remember I told you that in Italy? 'cause I lived in Italy for a while. My brother and I were always getting in trouble. And it was always bambino, you know, the yelling at us because, you know, we'd climb over a fence or climb up the side of an old building 'cause there's so much fun stuff.

It is like Assassin's Creed over there. There's so many easy holds. So, so in, in Italy, you're not supposed to let your five year olds climb up the ancient church side or something, you know, so they, so something just maybe whatever, always. I had this memory of always getting in trouble and now. It's clicked for me when I see my own kids always getting it.

I'm like, oh, it's the same thing. I wasn't being a bad kid. I was just raised in a culture where I was expected to be and, and trained to be significantly more rambunctious and confident and aggressive than other kids were. And when I was put in an environment with these Meer children they sort of like panicked.

Yeah. Yeah, makes sense. Or their parents did not wanna go out anymore. 'cause they're so fine at home, it doesn't cause any trouble. They're happy. They're, they're not being bad in public either. Well,

they're, I know they're going out and doing their own thing. Like when I get in trouble, they're like, well, one of your kids left the park and is playing in the field.

And I'm like, why is it wrong that he's playing in the field? Why do I have to force all the kids to play on the part? And they're like, I, I'm like, he's not gonna die. Like, let him do what he wants,

huh? Yeah. So what is, you know, we've got Hillary Clinton, like what's what? What are we taking away from all this?

My

thesis here is that I think that I. There, there I, I won't say that great. Replacement theory is real. So if anybody takes this video and says Malcolm is arguing for great replacement theory, I am not, because I don't think that that was the intention. I think that there was an intention to allow demographics to shift.

I think as Hillary said that the left saw immigrants and a believed higher birth rate within immigrants as a pathway towards, fixing demographic collapse. They knew that falling fertility rates were an economic issue and they thought that they could fix it with, with immigrants. And if you look at other things they said, they also saw that the immigrants would vote for them.

And so they saw this as useful from both perspectives, fixing an economic problem and also fixing sort of an existential demographic problem.

Mm-hmm.

It was, well, I mean, I, I would, I could argue that there was a great replacement conspiracy and that we wanted to replace problematic and troublesome conservative Americans with receptive and grateful immigrants. 'cause that would make sense. I mean, that doesn't seem unreasonable to me. If I wanted to get votes and make sure I got elected, I would probably wanna do that too.

So, yeah. You know, just seems reasonable to me, but yeah, it's, it's odd. It is odd.

All right. I love you to ask Simone.

I love you too. Gorgeous.

All right, Simone, after three days of reporters raiding our house German news team for, what was it? Korea, Japanese, and then German. Before that we did a bunch of screeds about how we're happy the Germans are going extinct, and Muslims don't ban IVF like they do. So, you know, we gotta see if we can, we can get, get a something viral outta this.

With the Japanese, we went full ota. We're like, oh, we're OTAs for having kids. 'cause it's like subversive to have kids these days. And that only in Otaku, somebody who's our taco for children, you know, like a weirdo, obsessive, but four children would be able to replace themselves in this country as it is today.

What's

wildest, just how much our kids have normalized film crews. Like to them it's not weird. It would be weirder for them to see. An electrician in the house fixing something than it would be for them to see a full out film crew with all the lighting, all the suitcases, all the, it's so funny. Don't get it.

Oh my gosh. It's wild. Yeah. They, they, they, they just have like a giant film camera in their face where they're like eating and they're not paying attention at all.

Yeah. They just like,

whatever. Oh, this is normal.

Obviously I'm famous. Obviously the news is here to interview me.

Why the film crews come, he says, because he's very fancy.

Yes, it's the fanciness. It is specifically because our son, Octavian is fancy. But he is, he is not wrong. He is very fancy.

Alright. Okay.

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