I just found it much more natural, to be honest with you. And I quit my music gig and moved over to the art case. But I also felt that the art world was a rather mandarin place. The conceptual nature of both artists makes it sort of as much art based as idea-based. It gave me a certain kind of distance from this. There's an inside and an outside to it. Very much.

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