I just found it much more natural, to be honest with you. And I quit my music gig and moved over to the art case. But I also felt that the art world was a rather mandarin place. The conceptual nature of both artists makes it sort of as much art based as idea-based. It gave me a certain kind of distance from this. There's an inside and an outside to it. Very much.
Michael Kimmelman has been the architecture critic of The New York Times since 2011, writing about cities, public space, infrastructure, community development, public housing, equity, and the environment. He joins to talk about his extraordinary career in journalism and his new book, “The Intimate City: Walking New York.”