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The Most Challenging Cabinet Position
I don't think you knew me that well, but if you would categorise yourself as... When you were at school at that age, if it was either sort of goth, or something, that's a cliche. So in a way, he was kind of right. But Johnny Cash? Kind of. Let's stick with Lenekoin. What was the most challenging cabinet position that you held? Well, I think it was Chancellor, but because of the circumstances that we were in. Spending three years in heavily defensive mode. You're dug in and you're trying to defend as much as you can of your territory. And that's never really a... It doesn't feel