Russia's Confidence Grew and Grew in Line With the Price of Oil

Russia was very poor at the time. It was indebted. He needed debt relief. The price of oil was very low. So in his mind, i think it's fair to say, right, that he viewed nato expansion as sort of kicking russia while it was down. By two thousand and eight, the bucarest declare on nado basically says, we have an open door to georgia and to ukraine. They will never forget this kind of prescient in its way by then. But is, as you know, because you've been in around policy making, you're often balancing two competing sets of values. When we come back, i will ask secretary

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