The Angel of China or the Principality of China

The idea that there is some kind of agency there agencies which act above above the human level and seem to constrain us in our own agency let's say as we act. And so that is really what I'm curious to explore a little more based on our discussion maybe I can start with this. You said John Viveki was comfortable using the word agency for higher levels of mentation but not the word consciousness do you know what difference he makes in his mind between the two? In my answer would be yes it is because it's actually held together by by name by memory by attention by all these these mechanisms.

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