Socrates never cast that form and said, this is what you're going to see. He tries to do the intergenerational. And he exemplified virtues and you cut them from him in a way that has had an impact on his life. I'm sure I can see it in you. John: It's one of the sticking points of the kind of like generational warfare that's coming now. We're ruining our chances of making completely ecological shifts within our lives by holding each other tethered.

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