Data on Cubanitis - What's the Nomenclature?

There is a big community around data on cubanettis. Are the storage clubs and data clubs, or are they now the same group? Probably changes a little bit because it's more about the date services rather than the nuts and bolts of the underlying storage. And we work together to be able to provide real world solutions and use cases rent users to learn how to do these things for themselves. You mentioned being at kubcon very early on in london. How did you get involved formally with the c n c f and lead to that role? So it was a little bit of an evolution c n cf as that which is ultimately the committee that makes technical decisions.