In this episode, Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church are joined by Lucy Adams, founder of Disruptive HR. Adams critiques traditional HR's rigid policies, advocating instead for judgment-based approaches that treat employees as grown-ups. The conversation explores challenges facing HR business partners, the evolution of DEI initiatives, and how organizations can create environments where people thrive through high-trust cultures, rather than compliance-driven systems.
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Lucy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucykadams/
Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/
Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/
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LINKS:
Disruptive HR: https://disruptivehr.com/
Lucy’s article “HR Business Partner: The toughest role in HR?”: https://disruptivehr.com/hr-business-partner-the-toughest-role-in-hr/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(01:17) Lucy's Background and BBC Experience
(03:08) Personal Connection and BBC Stories
(04:25) Origins of Disruptive HR
(07:00) Evolution of HR and Post-COVID Workplace Changes
(11:39) Trust and Autonomy in Workplace Decisions
(16:56) Trust as Foundation for Business Success
(17:32) Sponsors: Thatch | Planful
(20:27) Progressive HR Policies and Examples
(23:53) HR Business Partner Role Challenges
(25:13) Sponsor: Metaview
(27:55) Messy Reality of Great HR Work
(31:00) HR's Focus on Process vs. Real Impact
(33:26) Current HR Trends and Community Concerns
(35:56) DEI Evolution and Conversation Approaches
(45:53) Wrap
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